Interview with Hana Berger Moran
by Agnes A. Rose
Hana Berger Moran is the daughter of
Priska Löwenbeinová who was Slovak. Her mother was one of the three very brave
women who were pregnant when they entered Auschwitz II-Birkenau. Priska, Rachel
and Anka kept their pregnancies in great secrecy from the Nazis. Hana was born the
day before her mother was transported to the Mauthausen Labor Camp in Austria . Hana and her mother are one of the
protagonists of the book entitled “Born Survivors” by Wendy Holden. The book
was released in Poland in 2015. Hana currently lives in California .
Agnes A. Rose: Thank you very much that you
agreed to tell your story to my readers. At the beginning I would like to ask
you for telling us something more about your brave mother, Priska. What was
she?
Hana Berger Moran: Priska was then a 28 year-young
woman who was a teacher in a primary school at the time of her deportation,
although she studied to become a professor of languages. When she was forced to
stop teaching in school, she gave private English, French and German language
lessons. She was very lively, loved playing tennis and above all loved her
husband, my late father Tibor Löwenbein and her family.
Agnes A. Rose: You were born in a
concentration camp. Do you remember when you first learned the story related to
your birth? What kind of emotions accompanied you then?
Hana Berger Moran: First time I heard the words ”concentration
camp” and the fact that I was actually born in such a place was when I was six
year old (in first grade). This is how it happened: I was outside playing after
school and children started to call “židka” (Jew). I did not know what it meant
so went home and asked my mother. She took me by the hand and we went to stand
in front of the photographs of her late parents, my late father and her late
sister – and she told me that they all were “židia” and because of that were
killed in camps, called concentration camps. Moreover, she too was a židka, was
also in such a camp and that is where she gave birth to me. Being six year old,
my reaction was, which I actually remember to this day: ”I too want to be like
you and them, and now can I go and play outside?”
Agnes A. Rose: How did your mother cope
emotionally with her Holocaust experiences? What kept her going day to day in
the camp? How did she maintain hope?
Hana Berger Moran: Because mine was my mother’s fourth
pregnancy, she was extremely focused to have this child (which became me).
Therefore her entire focus was to survive and to bring me back home and there
to wait for her beloved Tibor. She was absolutely convinced that she would
survive, because she was going to have this little girl, to whom she had already
given a name – Hana. Yes, she did give a name to a boy, should it be so...
Miško, but she was convinced in her heart that it was going to be a girl. She
prayed every day – several times a day and trusted the Almighty to take care of
her.
Agnes A. Rose: What kind of work did your mother do in the concentration camp? What
kind of conditions did she work under? Could you describe her typical day
there?
Hana Berger Moran: In the now famous factory in
Freiberg, a porcelain factory converted for the war effort to be an Arado-Flugzeugwerke
factory for war planes. She sat or stood by a tall work table and was
responsible to put securing locking nuts on the wings with very heavy
equipment. If she stopped even for a very short period, she had anything thrown
at her – sometimes it was a hammer, sometimes a rag… The prisoners were walked
to the factory through Freiberg streets in the morning after Appeal around 6
AM. At the end of the work day, it was the same on the way back.
Agnes A. Rose: How did the Holocaust influence your family? Could you say whether it
strengthened or weakened your family?
Hana Berger Moran: I believe the Holocaust experience
was a warning to my family – it showed us how people who used to be kind, could
change in a very short time, it took for the hateful propaganda to sink in. It
also taught me to value the precious life we are given as a gift and to strive
to enjoy it. It taught me to be strong yet kind, because we never know who else
went through the same experiences – whether then or now.
Hana & Wendy Holden who is the author of Born Survivors |
Agnes A. Rose: How did your mother start her life after the Holocaust?
Hana Berger Moran: In her words, my mother, when she
understood that her beloved Tibor was not coming back and having me, a very
weak and sickly child to raise herself alone, had immediately started to act in
order, as she put it: “put a bigger piece of bread on the table”. While she was
teaching in a primary school in Bratislava, she also enrolled (1946) at the
University to complete her Masters in English, German and French to get her
teacher’s degree to be able to teach at the then schools called Gymnasiums (today
the same grades are equivalent to Middle through High School).
Agnes A. Rose: I read that you never met your father because he is thought to
have died on a death march from Gliwice slave labour camp in January 1945.
I am sure that your mother told you about him many times. Could you tell us a
little bit about him?
Hana Berger Moran: Indeed, my father was killed or died
from weakness on the death march from Gliwice in January 1945. My mother told me how thoughtful, loving,
patient and also strong-willed my father was. He was a very analytical thinker
and intellectual, a writer, with a very strong sense of right and wrong. He was
a Slovak patriot who believed everybody should be free to practice their
religion without being forced to suffer for it. He would have never left
Czechoslovakia, if not for being deported as is also recorded in the small
booklet he wrote in Bratislava.
Agnes A. Rose: What was your family’s life
like before WWII?
Hana Berger Moran: Are you asking about the entire
family? My grandparents, Paula and Emanuel Rona had a small, modest Kosher Cafe
in Zlaté Moravce, in Czechoslovakia. When they were forced to close it in late
1940 they moved to Bratislava to be near their two daughters, Elizabeth (Alžbeta)
or Boežka and my mother. Boežka was a
very gifted seamstress and my mother was a teacher. My late father worked as a
journalist for the local Jewish newspaper.
Agnes A. Rose: Did the members of your
family try to emigrate in 1939 when the Nazis attacked their native country?
Hana Berger Moran: Only one member of our family did
emigrate in 1938 to then Palestine (under English mandate). The rest of our
family never thought of it. My father did not believe they had to leave.
Agnes A. Rose: What circumstances led to the
fact that now you live in the United States rather than in Slovakia ?
Hana Berger Moran: On 21st of August 1968 I
was a young woman, married about a year, had my master’s degree in Chemical Engineering
and was 6 months pregnant. And I was
feeling happy because our country was undergoing a wonderful change – learning
to practice socialism with a human face under then president, Alexander Dubček.
And then I saw tanks and heard shots and learned that our “brothers” had come
to “liberate” us from our freedom and that was that! Within ten days I got a
passport, which I did not have till then and went our documents to Austrian
embassy to get the visa to Austria. We left, me driving, a tank behind our car,
on morning of 31st of August 1968.
Because the only family, my mother’s brothers, lived in Israel I had
decided to go there in order to be taken care of with our much anticipated
baby. He was born in Ashqelon, Israel, in December 1968. After few years
working and studying in the Weizmann Institute of Science, I completed my PhD
in Organic Chemistry of Natural Products and moved to United States to initiate
my Postdoctoral fellowship. And we decided to stay in US. My mother visited,
but never wanted to leave Slovakia. After 17 years of absence I was allowed to
start visiting her there in person, which I did several times a year.
This is the Polish edition of Born Survivors Published by SONIA DRAGA Katowice 2015 Translated by Przemysław Hejmej & Jerzy Rosuł |
Agnes A. Rose: How important to you is the
book “Born Survivors” by Wendy Holden? Why did you decide to tell the author
about your mother and your family?
Hana Berger Moran: It was important for my mother’s
story to be heard – my mother did not speak much about her experiences in the
camp – most she said was “I was there and came back together with my daughter.”
Even when she was interviewed – that was the essence of what she said... and
so, when I learned from Wendy what was her goal, there was no doubt in my mind,
that it is the right thing to do.
Agnes A. Rose: How do you feel about Germans
and Germany today?
Hana Berger Moran: I have mixed feelings – just like
everywhere there are good and bad people... same thing that happened in Germany
in 1930s can and is happening today... to a different degree. I visited Germany
on business and also have visited Freiberg.
Agnes A. Rose: I know that you came back to
the place where you were born. You also met with the surviving children of
Rachel and Anka. Was it very traumatic for you?
Hana Berger Moran: It was wonderful to meet Dr. Mark
Olsky and Eva Nathan Clarke: we started to call ourselves siblings right then
and there as neither of us has a sister or brother and so it fits that we are
that to each other. That feeling of love took over everything.
The place is shocking and I will
tell you, that I never understood, and now even more – so, how did my mother
survive those 7 months! How did she do it? How did they all do it? It was , is and will always be traumatic for
me, even though I say proudly – “we are here!”
Agnes A. Rose: What about Auschwitz ? Did you visit this place, too? If
so, what are your feelings associated with your visit in Poland ?
Hana Berger Moran: I have not visited Auschwitz. My
grandparents maternal and paternal and my aunt perished there in the gas
chambers (1942 and 1944 respectively). My feelings are not much different about
Poland then they always were – it is a country north of Slovakia. What I am a
little worried about is the very current development in Poland, but that is
politics and I will not go into it now. I believe that the same comment applies
as mentioned above – Jews were the scapegoats even the very poor Jews – it was
so everywhere. And what a pity.
Agnes A. Rose: What message would you like
to leave with the people here? What would you like people to remember about
your mother experiences? How should people respond to genocide and human rights
violations today?
Hana Berger Moran: We must never forget the evil that
happened. We need to understand what needs are fulfilled by that hatred. Without
that understanding the people will continue to be able to be controlled by hysteria
and hatred without a thought to what brought it on.
We must learn to enjoy life, to love
every sunrise and sunset, and learn to love each other by learning about our
differences.
Agnes A. Rose: Thank you so much for this
conversation. This is extremely important to me. I am very happy that I could
talk to you. Is there anything you would like to add?
Hana Berger Moran: Thank you for contacting me, Agnes –
I am honored. For many years I had a pen-pal in Warsaw – now the letters are
lost, but we wrote each other every month – she in Polish and I in Slovak. It
was wonderful.
If you want to read this interview in Polish, please clock here.
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